Five Consecutive Profitable Months

January 31, 2007 by Trader Rich 

I was able to rebound today with a +90 pip h-system trade and a +21 pip Lien Schlossberg trade.  This brought my January 2007 total to +80 pips.  It isn't much but nevertheless, it is my fifth straight month trading forex profitably. 

I want to talk about the trading signal service that Kathy Lien and Boris Schlossberg offer.  I lost 97 pips using their service this month.  In their defense, I missed two of their most profitable trades because I just didn't have the ability to trade at the time.  Even if I would have caught these trades, I still would have been negative for the month.  If I had to estimate it, I might have been down about 30 pips if I could have taken these trades.  Their member area shows that with today's profitable trade, they were profitable by about 30 pips in the month of January.   This performance is under ideal conditions; where I was able to trade at their exact entry and exit points.  This was usually not the case since emails or text messages lagged or the price just slipped.  I didn't follow 3 of their signals, 2 because I wasn't available to trade at that time and another because by the time I received their email to enter the trade, their target was already hit.  Most of their signals require entering at market price so you don't have any prep time whatsoever.  In addition, their signals occur at random times throughout the day and night.  Strangely, they have no qualms opening a trade in the afternoon (US EST) which I would never do myself.  Realistically, although they show a profit on paper, it would have been very difficult for someone using their service this month to show a profit.  I would be surprised if I was wrong.   They rarely had that surefire trade that allowed one to get in, grab profits, and get out.  Their trades tended to take some time to develop, sometimes for better and sometimes for worse.  Although their initial call showed a 2:1 reward/risk ratio, it rarely showed this ratio in the end.  For instance, today's trade call went out with profit target of 55 pips and a stop loss of 30 pips, almost a 2:1 ratio.  Similar to many past trade calls, they sent out a message to close the trade immediately at market before the target was hit.  This particular trade was closed with a profit of 32 pips (under ideal conditions) for a reward/risk of 1:1.  Their risk/reward more times than not worked out to no better than 1:1. 

The point of all of this is not to bad mouth the service, just to make everyone aware of the caveats with forex signal services.   Kathy Lien and Boris Schlossberg are undoubtedly very informed about the Forex market and carry an almost implied trust.   This is a good thing but what I realize more and more is that just because they're well informed doesn't mean they can make money trading.  One month doesn't tell the whole story either but I don't think one should imply that well-known traders who command a certain level of forex celebrity make money trading forex.  I'm not saying that Boris and Kathy don't make money trading forex.  They really didn't this month but they very well might next month.  One thing for sure is that they aren't making a killing from trading forex.  They probably are making a killing selling their signals though.

I promised I would use the service through the end of February, so I will follow through on this.

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2 Responses to “Five Consecutive Profitable Months”

  1. wim on January 31st, 2007 2:40 pm

    Hi Rich,

    Thanks for your comments on Lien &S.
    It is not because there are “great” analists, that they can signal great market calls. However.. (the most important word analysts use for being right all the time)LOL. I bet their service will be a short lived one. Maybe 6 month or less I guess.
    They better spend time writing new books (maybe about their trading calls)

    If your system works, better follow it and make your own trades instead of wasting money following their calls.

    My 2 cents,
    Regards,
    Wim

  2. Rich on February 4th, 2007 1:21 pm

    I figured I’d try it out but at this point, my confidence level is pretty low.

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